It's just the best way to start your day. People who surf, they know the object is to have fun. You work hard, but you work hard to have fun.

One of the guarantees is that we're going to have fun, we're going to have a good time, because we're friends. We started out being friends because we had so much in common, and now it's come full circle. All the lines are blurred.

We'd surf together, then go straight to the coffee shop and have our meetings. It's amazing how much we'd get done.

Both of us have a lot of experience in our fields, and our work styles are very complementary. I'm always going 50 miles an hour and thinking 90 steps ahead. She's much calmer about everything.

The day for people to just give us things is over. We have to stand up for ourselves. We have to help ourselves. Where we have to start as a people is to take pride in us - start with helping us.

We hopefully have a fun 'day out' destination for the people of Beijing. We want people to stay in our store for at least a couple of hours.