It's just two pieces of paper, ... I don't know what the big deal is.

The culture had just been through this postmodern period of green tea and Buddhism, with everybody asking the big questions. People were lost. These guys had answers. You see a close-up of a broken toenail inside a shoe, and that becomes an important clue. Instead of the big things, it's about the littlest things. And they become the most important things. It's a new way of perceiving, and I think that spiritual aspect of the show is why people keep watching.

It wasn't really a big deal,

These big pieces and headdresses, I see them more as abstractions than as subjects.

We're just ready to go. The big thing is to get rid of the nerves that go with the state tournament. We need to jump on teams as soon as the game starts.

With nothing more than a few pieces of paper, forged deeds, he turned nothing into $1.6 million,