I've never gotten over that one. We were much better than Stanford. But we changed our offense to an option type thing. We were running the Wishbone! We could have put our hands on three national championships.

One of our assistant coaches, Lou Holtz, had a bet that Keyes would not get 25 yards. We skunked 'em.

How do you think it went? ... He wasn't going to take any lip. He was pounding on the table and saying we'd just go home. We're thinking, 'Fine. Let's go home.'

We've got some options on offense. We'll run more option, bootleg and waggle, and we'll use fullback, tailback and quarterback as runners. With the quarterback running, we've got an extra threat from what we've had the last few years.

They run a lot of spread with the option and single back. On offense, it's all set up by their quarterback, and their line is fairly decent. They're a typical OCC team.

But then, after having one or two conversations with Mike about it, he changed agents,