Kilimanjaro is not very technical and doesn't require any ropes. It's just the elevation that's the issue.

They were that strong and amazing. They could carry up to 55 pounds on their heads. We were absolutely pampered.

It's a technical issue, not an academic issue. He's fine academically.

I think we have a PR issue, in that people do not think the utility industry has great significant technical challenges. College graduates look at us and see poles and wires, and don't realize there are things like automation, computer control and sophisticated asset management systems out there.

If it's a technical issue, he won't just have the engineers of that product attend the meeting. He has all the right people assembled. He really knows how to rally the forces.

show him the ropes.