Last year we got three or four planes together and flew to Chandler for breakfast. We usually plan on having fly-outs over Thanksgiving weekend or over Veteran's Day.

It usually to takes three or four years to really look back on a draft.

We usually put three or four seconds on the clock, so we were a little short of that.

We decided to do a Belgian waffle breakfast at the VFW [three] Sundays ago. Four or five volunteers got together and put it on. People flooded in. We had a wide variety of ages; people were unbelievable. The guy from the Guilford Lobster Pound knew Bubba and gave a $100 check; that got us started.

Penney is continuing a three- or four-year downfall,

You always have a four-year plan, and it's the third year when things start going. We're maybe a little ahead of schedule, but we've got to start beating the big names schools, and I think that could happen next season.