My holy grail is fusion energy. Nuclear fusion has little to no radioactive waste. It's clean. It's very abundant. The fuels are everywhere. There are problems with fusion.

I think there's something really poetic about using nuclear power to propel us to the stars, because the stars are giant fusion reactors. They're giant nuclear cauldrons in the sky.

I really have become convinced that nuclear fusion is our energy future. It's so powerful. I mean, it is the power of the stars. If we could bring that down to the laboratory and to the power plant on Earth, that would be an incredible thing.

We have never succeeded in slowing down our nuclear fusion reactors.

When I hold something that's radioactive, it's kind of an indescribable feeling. It's kind of like when I'm with my girlfriend.

Producing clean energy from non-recyclable waste is an important part of my future vision for family company Visy Australia.