No, there's not much competition between puppeteers in general because everybody's working their own style.

Yeah, well when I first started working, it was $5 a show; it was probably a little higher by the time I got to my own show, but I remember that they put me under contract at $100 a week, which to me was really an astronomical price.

I think my own strengths are in television production.

I've never felt any sense of competition with anybody, and we're all friends; we're all good friends.

Yeah, we pretty much had a form and a shape by that time - a style - and I think one of the advantages of not having any relationship to any other puppeteer was that it gave me a reason to put those together myself for the needs of television.

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