Nobody wants to take their chances with a tough 2-0 17-year-old. You lose to a 17-year-old, it's kind of like degrading to them if they lose to a kid.

Actually, the 10 days he took off did him real good letting his body just rest. And when he came back, he was just like a madman.

I'm 90 percent sure we're coming home with the belt or I wouldn't take the fight right now.

We put a lot of time in to get him ready. He was 100 percent ready for the fight. What are you going to do?

That's definitely a big opportunity for us to showcase Joe. Not bad for his third fight.

Even in making objects, as soon as you start to get the feeling that some form of craft is coming into place, you realize that everything is wrong. Because craft is really just a fetish. It is wasted energy. It's about the object, some space which has nothing to do with the human.