Not to dismiss Gershwin, but Gershwin is the chip; Ellington was the block.

Ira Gershwin, shame on him. I mean, some of the writing.

A chip off the old block

I think I would go further into fine arts, I think, if I were to continue.

I don't like to make fluffy little songs, but now I want to make some light songs.

I know my generation - a lot of them, they're getting old now, and they want to think back fondly, they want to kid themselves. A lot of them think, 'Yeah, we were the best.' That's the kiss of death. That's non-growth. And also that's very bad for the world.