Nothing on the ground is going to change because of this from the fish's perspective. We will still continue doing the good stewardship activities.

Doug will bring a certain freshness and a change in perspective.

I guarantee you it's going to change here, it will change. I believe it's going to get better. I really believe that.

A ?no-list' under federal ESA does not mean these fish are firing on all cylinders. All this means is that the fish are doing well enough to not require federal protection through the ESA.

That's a tough gym sometimes to play in. It gives you a different perspective from the floor than a normal gym. We did a pretty good job, the kids adjusted pretty well.

Mountains, according to the angle of view, the season, the time of day, the beholder's frame of mind, or any one thing, can effectively change their appearance. Thus, it is essential to recognize that we can never know more than one side, one small aspect of a mountain.