Now we're seeing more private developers saying there is no question whether we should do this or not, we've got to.

Seattle is really on the national and international map in terms of green building. People in other cities call to ask what's happening here.

If you get something more in zoning, then we're also expecting something back for the community, more public amenities. But the whole issue of economic realities and feasibility is going to be important in this area. ... That's the kind of analysis we need to do.

What we're saying is, they had information about the allegation.

When we were saying it doesn't matter in the '60s and '70s and '80s, we didn't have the experience of enough kids in a culture when families were breaking down. It was just our best guess.

It always helps to bring the vice president. It's like the press is the only one that has been saying it is a problem with him being here.