Our (Hendrick) engineers and crew chiefs all get together and compare notes. That's when you really see the benefit of a four-car team.

There ain't no way you can do that. They'll find a way around it. (Crew chiefs) will find a way around it. We'll find something else to run into each other with if it isn't the front bumper.

I kind of view it as jealously, and he doesn't have a crew chief in there working hard enough to make his cars as good.

The Daytona 500 is a career-winning race. It defines careers for drivers, crew members, crew chiefs and race teams. It has that power.

It's a hard spot to find, but when you do it great things happen. It's typically short-lived. You've got to enjoy it while it's there. You can never plan on when it's going to come or go. You just try to enjoy the days while it's there.

We'd like to literally compare some notes if we can with the census.