Our self-pay as a percentage of our overall business isn't that high, from a relative standpoint, ... But it's still 5 or 6 percent of our business. And if you're one of those 5 or 6 percent, it's still a big issue to you paying for your health care cost.

This is trying to assure that self-pay patients, particularly of modest or lesser means, aren't going to be disadvantaged because they don't have insurance companies to represent them,

I'm in the retail business, not the circus business.

We're really not concerned about whether or not we'll be able to keep the thing busy, ... There's plenty of business out there.

We pay all of the costs a business has to pay. We're self-supporting.

There are leasing conferences held around the country every quarter at which mall representatives and national business representatives get together, ... The May conference, which was held in Las Vegas, drew 30,000 people. It's become a very sophisticated process. The tenants now have real estate brokers and lawyers who represent them. They want to get the most bang for their money.