Pinetop only wanted what he always called a little bit of 'bean money,' a little money to go buy some baked beans or something.

We wanted to have him on there as a friend.

You're at the mercy of the hourly rate in studios, and you hope to be inspired at 40 bucks an hour, which is tough sometimes. The clock is always ticking.

Money is like manure. If you spread it around it does a lot of good. But if you pile it up in one place it stinks like hell.

We used to talk about wanting to get some money, but that's when hip-hop was based on your dreams and your fantasy. The whole thing now is the dreams and fantasies were achieved, and you don't want to make it the focal point. You can't keep beating that dead horse.

I remember when I was 6 years old and my brother used to go seek out guys that were 13 to come over and play football against me while he was the 'permanent quarterback.' I didn't know exactly what the age difference was, but I was already playing against older guys.