Pleasant Hill just has too many horses, they're a good basketball team.

I played basketball. I barrel raced. We used to break horses.

I have worked with a basketball player who said he was always told to get up before a game. Then he would go to the game and in the first five minutes, the ball would fall off his hands. He learned that before the game, rather than getting excited, he needed to do things to settle himself down.

It's really beautiful. Owners can walk up to their horses without getting muddy, and we're not bunched up like we were, so it's much safer for the people and horses.

In basketball, you want the players to be at the right level of arousal. If they are pretty highly aroused, it is useful for doing certain things like jumping, running fast, playing intense defense. But when you step up to the foul line, you want to pull all of that down and get calm.

We seem to make that turnover and don't get that bucket when we need it. ... It was a basketball game right down to the end.