Roy has missed nine starts so far. You figure he's good for at least four wins. Where are we with four more wins?

It's good, but it's far from over. You always need four wins to get the series, so you just have to concentrate on the next game.

He's off to a good start, but he's getting caught up in good starts by all of them. Good starts are contagious. But he's a good hitter -- he's proven that.

The longer you're around, guys see you enough, you figure some guys out. They've got good arms, they've got the stuff to get guys out regardless. It's all about locating and pitching ahead.

It was in a market that was growing but has declined, at least as far as housing starts. What it all comes down to is housing starts. Our benchmark is 3,000 starts annually in a market. There were not very many in these areas and 95 percent of our customers are builders. It is not a people issue, it is a market issue.

He finds his groove -- finds his rhythm a little bit. Naturally, when a guy's struggling, he starts pressing. He's probably coming out of the gates trying a little too hard. Sometimes the harder you try, the tougher it gets.