So moderate is insisting that North Korea should open door to outside.

Well, that is very imperative to let North Korea open door to outside.

You know, North Korea situation is far worse than East Germany, and South Korea is weaker than West Germany.

All of North Korea is a jail.

There is some sign that North Korea is changing recently. There is ongoing successful negotiation to have a military talk to Pyongyang, which has been stopped for seven years.

And also, we are providing, you know, a nuclear power plant in the north, two light water systems, so some 4 or 5 billion dollars we are providing to meet with North Korean requests on the condition North Korea will not produce a nuclear weapon.