That is really what it takes for a high-end theater like this one.

We are interested in producing theater in places where people are. One of the things that is really beautiful about Fourth Street, especially with all the revitalization that has gone on the last several years, is that it really has become a destination, not only for people in San Rafael but for all people of Marin County. Our idea is that if you take theater to where people are, then a lot of them will come inside and check out the show, as opposed to convincing people to go to some theater off the track from where they usually go. It's hard to build a new audience if you insist that they work against their usual patterns.

There isn't a whole lot you can't do from here.

I really don't feel this is the way we felt we were going to play today. I really feel disappointed in the way we played as a team. We made a lot of mistakes. I'm disappointed.

I want to do work that means something to me so that when I go to work at the theater eight times a week, I want to be there.

It's like being a gym rat, but you're a theater rat, and then that becomes your fraternity house. That becomes your extended family.