That's not very interesting to the premiers . . . They are talking big, big bucks.

Absolutely, it's affordable. I am not saying it's easy, but . . . it's extremely reasonable. It would be unreasonable to have a federal government growing at much more than that; we have to learn to live within budget.

not being given a whole lot of opportunities to make plays even though I signed — quote, unquote — big bucks.

'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender

We're still a growth company. We're talking of taking the company north of $250 million in three years and that requires infrastructure.

We need someone with big bucks to go in there to make Michael's into substantive real estate, and I'm pleased that Dunkin' Donuts has enough money to go in there and make those changes. I think a lot of people are apprehensive, but I don't think they have thought it through. They don't want Dunkin' Donuts, they want someone else, but we can't get someone else who would be willing to redo the building. I was afraid that it was going to be turned into a real estate office, and that would be very terrible.