That's the most important piece of evidence, ... If there's one thing that could have convinced folks on both sides of the border that there was foul play, it was that body.

I have a piece of evidence the book doesn't have with regards to the Knights Templar. You'll have to come to the lecture to see what it is.

We're just working on this one little piece. We recognize that these folks need a connection to the outside world.

You are one of the best witnesses, I think, that has come before this committee. You've convinced folks who share Senator Brownback's view that you're going to be just right for them and you've convinced folks that share Senator Kennedy's view that you're just right for them,

It's a very good piece of evidence,

No one is going to convince me that if a bunch of white faces had been paraded out there, that the results of this would not have been different. Certainly, the issue of economics and race played a factor in this. When it comes down to it, there is an us and them. And I don't know how to change that.