The Knight Foundation is very anxious for this partnership to proceed, but we're concerned about our investment.

This is a partnership deal, not an investment. We're all equal partners.

So that instead of the partnership being what Washington says it is, it's more open to the states to find their own path, and that's very attractive to the governors, because, oftentimes, that results in a savings of money just because we get to do it in our own way.

People are realizing that real estate is a smart investment to make, a safe investment. It's one of the only investments where you're pretty much guaranteed to get a return on your money.

They certainly seemed pleased with what we did here. They had nothing but praise. We were pleading our case pretty hard.

We carry on tranquil and mature discussions on specific issues that always come up as part of any partnership on this scale,