The question is, have you simply allowed your ship to rise along with a rising tide and it's not the value actually provided. Certainly the builders and the energy companies would seem to fit that.

A truly successful person is synonymous with a rising tide which lifts all boats in its path.

We got a lot of inquiries from many companies. The tide for nuclear has really been rising.

A rising tide doesn't raise people who don't have a boat. We have to build the boat for them. We have to give them the basic infrastructure to rise with the tide.

There's so many other founders — the main one being down the coast, with [Oracle founder] Larry Ellison — who have a great deal of money as well, but still pay themselves massive amounts by options every year.

The '90s was the slippery slope from managing expectations to managing earnings to outright fraud.