There have been serious discussions by representatives of the four zoos to ask if there are ways that the price of keeping pandas can be negotiated downward.

We had a lot of serious discussions about who we wanted to be as a band, where we wanted to be and who we wanted to be as individuals and where we wanted to be as men and as people, ... Those are difficult questions to ask. Most people need a counselor to do that. And this is a marriage really.

It really is turning out to be somewhat of a hardship.

We've come to realize that the current arrangement may not be financially viable over the long term.

I'm not hearing anything like that, and I would be very, very surprised.

People will get up in the middle of the night to see the pandas.