There's the public persona of Ron, ... but there's a lot more there than what you see. He's a Renaissance guy, very eclectic.

He's a delightful guy and so unlike his onscreen persona,

You have this tough-guy persona, but I know you're scared. I know you're afraid.

There's the private persona and the public persona and the two shall never meet.

What you saw is what you got, ... He didn't have a stage persona. He was a very honest, open guy and he used to drive me crazy. John would tell you want you wanted to know. He was a great guy.

I'm the wrong guy to ask. I'm only doing seven-step drops out there.