They thought we were mad. It was against all the medical teaching, but we had the evidence. We just had to keep pushing it and pushing it.

Don't ask me why nobody saw them before. My feeling is that nobody thought they were there. Standard medical teaching at the time was that there were no bacteria in the gut.

One of the standard teachings in medicine was nothing grew in the stomach. That was something that was being taught to students for 100 years.

It's only just starting to sink in.

That takes too much of your time. But I've always thought about coaching, whether it was here, AAU or teaching and mentoring young kids, ... I'll see how this goes. All my career I've taken things as they come, so this is no different.

Any time an adult is in a teaching role, they're held to a higher standard. Obviously, Holland thought that wasn't an appropriate way for one of their employees to be acting in school.