They wanted us badly. But every time I broached the subject, the board turned me down cold,

A lot of us got left behind last time, and a lot of us are worried about getting left behind again.

They have no allegiance to Atlantic City whatsoever, other than nostalgia, and that doesn't pay the bills, ... The Miss America pageant has to do what it thinks best serves its interests, and if moving out of Atlantic City does, that's what it should do.

They have no allegiance to Atlantic City whatsoever, other than nostalgia, and that doesn't pay the bills.

If the pageant's welfare was better served, you had to make a move. Today, it's exactly the situation they're in.

The seeds of today's problems were sown three or four decades ago,