They've all diversified into cremation products, trying to lose the burial business to themselves.

I thought he was a very effective interim leader. I was disappointed that he evidently didn't consider himself to be a candidate for the permanent job. I think he stabilized the company during a disruption in the management team.

They've all diversified into cremation products.

The quarter was substantially better than what we had anticipated.

Many of the conversations are about trying to get them to stay and groom a successor.

I believe in evolution and I think when it comes to business and the roots of business and the fundamentals of business, I don't think that ever changes. I think the idea of change is an illusion, but in nature it's necessary to change and perhaps business is a part of nature. I'm not totally sure.