This is far more serious, organized, committed, than many of us realized.

The system is very easy to manage, and allows us to offer our services at an extremely competitive price.

They're physically stronger than us at this point. We were just outmanned up front. Our kids competed and played hard. We stayed in the game against a real good football team. They're ranked No. 5 in the state for a reason. They're a real good football team.

He came in and treated us like grown men.

This was a military organization run on military lines -- the very, very thing that at the time the American military was telling us did not exist. And it was access to this group that told me that this war was going to be a long and very ugly one.

Giving some poor fellow three days to live -- that made me a participant. I made it very clear after that: I want nothing more to do with any hostage tapes. Any that you give me will not see the light of day.