To me, climbing is like eating or drinking. I have to do it; it's part of my life.

Life has to be dangerous.

The trouble that they see me in is a part of my life that I'm working on.

If you've climbed the first 140 meters it doesn't mean that you've succeeded; you are going to succeed by climbing the last 10 meters.

Music is my life.

I like to be involved in politics. I like to be involved in government. I've been in politics all my life. I would like to remain in government. I don't think that's so sinister.