To me, religion is an agreement between a group of people about what God is. Spirituality is a one-on-one relationship.

Me, I'm spiritually retarded, I need to be knee deep in water with a fly rod in my hands, that's about as close to God as I get.

A guy that's really serious about you, he's gotta be talking to you, he's gotta want to have one-on-one, in-your-face interaction. That's how we are.

I get energy from one-on-one conversations most often, and I lose energy from group conversations most often.

It's a very emotional issue. On one side you have a group that has a relationship with the birds, and on the other hand you have a property owner with a liability issue.

It is not objective proof of God's existence that we want but, whether we use religious language for it or not, the experience of God's presence.