Vern's upbeat - you know the kind of guy he is. But it hits you in the gut when you hear that word.

He's a quick-read guy. We're exposing him to all phases of the operation. We'll see where he fits in.

We're still kind of in limbo with Skinner, waiting to hear what's going to happen with him, ... My gut [feeling] is that he's a non-qualifier, but nothing has been cleared or sent to us through the [NCAA] Clearinghouse from his school yet.

We're still kind of in limbo with Skinner, waiting to hear what's going to happen with him. My gut [feeling] is that he's a non-qualifier, but nothing has been cleared or sent to us through the [NCAA] Clearinghouse from his school yet.

You can hear it. You chuckle when you see them get on a guy like that. But it means a guy must be doing something to get that kind of reaction.

We had baserunners. It's kind of a rarity when we don't throw a bunch of hits up there.