We did nothing. We had no money. We had no core people. We have taken what's in our guts and said this seems to be the right thing to do.

It's just on tables. We encourage people during musical worship to get up and get their own piece of bread. A lot of people with families will break off a chunk of bread and get a glass of wine and go back to their table and have communion as a family. I don't put a lot of restrictions on it. For us right now there are a lot of people who really desire the Lord deeply, and if you put up more up roadblocks, they might get discouraged and just pitch it all. We really believe in erring on the sake of it's OK.

It's bizarre. I don't know what our median age is, but we've got everybody. There are people in their 60s and 70s here. And they have a presence.

A lot of people are taking some money off the table, especially on the best-performing sectors, and the banks have been one of the biggest performers.

He knew he was going to run for mayor when he got that money. People who gave to the county party didn't give for that purpose,

I thought, man, this would be a great place to do a church.