We got a bad draw and had to start in the back of the Dash,

I found the rubber first down in Turns 1 and 2, ... I searched around for it in Turns 3 and 4, I just didn't go down low enough. It looked blacker right in the middle, so I tried it there. I was still loose there so I started running the top. I just didn't go down low enough to catch it. If I would have gone down there I would have been all right. I didn't catch it until I saw Danny go by and it was too late then.

We came out and had a good start, and were able to draw some penalties.

Up in here, underneath the dash.

There's a lot of dash in the announcements, but if they have to be meaningful they have to be negotiated away from the glare of the media at the bilateral level,

MVC has always been one of the weaker players in the market, so it is dangerous to draw too many conclusions from this specific situation, but it does back up our view that these markets are becoming increasingly difficult.