We haven't been looking at new technologies and other things because we were concerned about impairment. Now we're looking at how Americans are changing how they recreate.

The park service has had a just-say-no policy.

They were free to talk about what they were doing in their fliers, but we did not put their bull's-eye insignia on the Washington Monument.

Because our mail goes through the Brentwood processing center [in Washington], which tested positive for anthrax, all our mail is irradiated, but the machines were set so high they cooked the mail, basically destroying it. The letters just fell apart. But I think they must have turned the machines down, because now the letters are just yellow.

Paul Hoffman had some initial suggestions and prompted us. Paul Hoffman was playing devil's advocate. He was saying, 'Show us, the political appointees who make policy, why do you do things the way you do?' It was a starting point. We're a long way from that now. They have drafted a new raw draft.

In a park, you can come in, take pictures and leave. But a preserve has a multiplicity of purposes.