We need to find close to another $2 million more

We put some pew cushions on just about three years or so ago, ... We're turning into something of wimps with pew cushions and air conditioning.

There's very little wiggle room from the 2005 budget,

I think our rates will be very close to this year's.

It's kind of nice to know that those things happened back then as well as today,

You read back through these old records when people were kicked out of the church for swearing,