We realized Turkey was a great opportunity for using that process to have some influence.

We have an opportunity right now right after disasters while governments are more receptive to influence policy from the start.

That was one of most horrifying statements I've ever heard in 12 years of doing this work,

The most extreme abuses are problems they can remedy very quickly,

We believe there's a very high death rate in these facilities.

KISS is actually a big influence on us. Our manager talked to Paul and got him involved and interested in us from the very beginning. We had a chance to meet him, go to some [ KISS ] shows, get to know him on a personal level. He'd talk to me and say 'You look good up there, but try to connect more to the audience.' I had Paul Stanley , who's a master at it, willing to help me out and giving me tips. How cool is that?