We say we never had a superstar (in Thunder Bay), but we always had good teams. There's really nothing to do up there except play hockey and fish.

You'll see the Thunder Bay chapter going along just fine for many years to come.

Rick was our number one guy that we pursued. As far as we know, Thunder Bay is still interested in Chad.

We have a really good team. We don't have a superstar . . . but we have 15 solid guys.

Our SWAT teams are going in there as if the suspect is still inside and we're taking every precaution of course.

It had not yet been named Silicon Valley, but you had the defense industry, you had Hewlett-Packard. But you also had the counter-culture, the Bay Area. That entire brew came together in Steve Jobs.