We wanted it to be a conversation between an expert and a layman.

It took me 10 years before I would say in a conversation that I actually swam in the Olympics, ... I would have never done that earlier.

He was very despondent, upset during the conversation. At times, he talked of suicide. He also talked about making the SWAT team kill him.

To conclude: good journalism is one of the models of good conversation and communication in the wider social context.

Any conversation including the mention of Roald Dahl, Ray Bradbury, or Emily Dickinson is one worth getting into or at least eavesdropping.

The middle path makes me wary. . . . But in the middle of my life, I am coming to see the middle path as a walk with wisdom where conversations of complexity can be found, that the middle path is the path of movement. . . . In the right and left worlds, the stories are largely set. . . . We become missionaries for a position . . . practitioners of the missionary position. Variety is lost. Diversity is lost. Creativity is lost in our inability to make love with the world.