We wanted to do something special, not just to piss it off.

It's a mix. We go from really hard rock, with obviously big guitars, to dub. I was always into the alternative stuff, a very big fan of THE POLICE . And this is edgy — a lot more aggressive than DEF LEPPARD .

If you're perceived like a bunch of old grandpas, no one will buy into that,

You take any family or any five people and that's what it's about. It's about births, deaths, marriages, divorces. The one thing that we can rely on is each other, and that makes it really special.

It's the teenagers that really make something really special. When you've got that on your side, then it works on a bigger scale.

That was the most exciting period, I think: at first, when you get the success on that really large scale.