We wanted to take as much time and effort making the video as we did the song.

In the time between records, I always have lots of stuff going on. I shoot photography, make little sculptures, play video games.

If you're making music for all the right reasons, people are going to be receptive to that and appreciate it the same way you did when your were writing it.

I've never worried about how long the song is.

We could have gone with much bigger labels and more money, but we wanted to go with a company that is LA based, all in the same building, and really understands what the artists want.

We're more into expressing ourselves than making radio hits.