We were in real places, with real people. That is Fernando's gift.

I'm interested in the spirits of people,

We were in real places, with real people. That is Fernando's gift, ... The Kenyan background is like an extra character, an active pulse within the drama.

Justin investigates his wife's death and what she was investigating and there's -- people are after him to stop him. They don't want the information to get out, and they will do anything to stop him.

But that's why we have marketing and why I'm talking to people like you,

It was just two energies between two people, you can't prescribe that.