We would like to take cars out of the environmental debate.

They produced solid enough numbers but debate on the issues coming out of their trading statement need a bit of an airing and the stock will sit where it is until those issues become a bit clearer.

I hope so, ... It isn't as if we're looking for things to have extended debate on. We need to work together and I think this week has established that. But how can we work together when information is not supplied? So, I hope that we'll all slow down the rhetoric during the break.

Bill is an emotional guy.

We have absolutely not delivered on our commitment with respect to (U.S.) market share.

Quite frankly, but for Bill Owens' efforts in this regard, I'm not sure we'd be sitting here today,