We're looking at, in 30 years, what's going to be there. If you mess up, everything after that struggles.

Money that would have been available for maintenance gets pulled away. Deferred maintenance is really the result. That's not healthy in the long run.

That's one of those events related to growth that there was no party over.

When energy costs go up, we still get the same rate.

People are going to buy cheap fertilizer so they can grow enough crops to feed themselves, which will be increasingly difficult with climate change.

If you look at the great frauds of all time, Enron had that phantom trading floor. What Herbalife has is it has phantom or fictitious customers.