We?re still a small, family-owned company. We?re just growing every day.

It?s gradually grown over time.

We produce everything here in-house.

I believe in 'last in, first out' budgeting, ... If you go to any company, any family budget, that's what you usually cut in a time when you can't afford things. We are at a very critical point where we have to make decisions about whether we can really afford this huge new entitlement.

I can laugh about it, but it's been very hard. One collection company was getting ready to put a lien on my house, but I was able to get that stopped. It's been a real battle.

We have to learn to be human along-side all sorts of others, the ones whose company we don't greatly like.