We've been trying for a year to get information.

We haven't decided. We're trying to get more scouting information on both teams before we make up our minds. We're leaning toward Cargill, but we won't decide until (today).

When I talked about my partner, you could see them sort of processing that information and trying to figure out what to do with it. But very soon, you get past any initial sort of hesitation to where you're talking about your kids, and what they're going to wear and what they were like as a toddler, and sharing blankets and doughnuts.

There's a lot of information online about physical things. I'm trying to figure out ways to access it in the real world.

We're like everyone else. We're trying to gather information, but information is hard to come by.

If the hacker can construct application code that can query this information, it's better than trying to hack it out of a back-end server that's been patched.