We've never sold it. We cut everything fresh and package it ourselves.

Muncie is off the beaten path for us, but Marsh stores lie along our path in many communities.

Once Wal-Mart is in full-swing, it will hurt even more. It's a challenging world, but we are doing well -- and we hope it stays that way.

At this point, we are not interested in any of it. But that could change. It is a fast-paced world now. Remember Standard Foods? It was big in the 1960s, and now you can't find them.

Even in making objects, as soon as you start to get the feeling that some form of craft is coming into place, you realize that everything is wrong. Because craft is really just a fetish. It is wasted energy. It's about the object, some space which has nothing to do with the human.

My characters aren't chess pieces. I don't move them around some big board. I actually care about these fictitious people.