We've really got no shot at the playoffs. That goal is gone.

I know we're out in the suburbs and there are a lot of ... good teams in Cincinnati, but I don't know why nobody thinks we're one of them. I hope we proved tonight that we can play in big football games.

The kids aren't trying to do that obviously. But we're not valuing the football.

Both teams predicate what they do on defense. They (both) are pretty demanding in that sense.

If Karl calls us, I'll talk to him. But I'm not going to go recruiting. We're going to respect Karl's space and his time and let him make some decisions. If we're part of his decision, I'll be real happy with that.

We're very pleased that they've taken on a defensive personality and realize that making stops and rebounding are going to be real important to our success. They're really sharing the ball, turning from an All-Star team into a basketball team, and that's been [Brown's] emphasis -- turning them into a team that realizes on the right and on the left is another guy who's as good or better.