What we're telling our kids is it's medicine, it's safe.

This is not about giving sick people medicine. No sick person could smoke that many joints.

It's a very frightening situation. We don't want to be giving kids the message that this is safe, that this is medicine.

You've had to stay. You've had to stay to watch what went on because we'd seen kids coming across the yard over there picking up things in their wake that were maybe of use to them, maybe it was not ours, maybe it was our neighbors that blew down over here. But still, they were picking up things that were not theirs.

When I started, three kids would be a big training.

Kids have taken it and passed and have moved . . . so the numbers don't always add up.