What's special is the great tradition in our program. To be in the same fraternity as Dave Gunther - and surpass him - is simply great.

Somehow, they've got our number. Our record against South Dakota hasn't been very good. It's been frustrating for me, personally. We'd like to think we're due.

He has this position open and he inquired if I would be interested. That's as far as it's at.

It was a tradition the fraternity has. They tell the pledges they have to kidnap a brother.

Dave and Judy, Toby's parents, are still trying to deal with all of it right now. We don't know a whole lot. Our only contact with the Army is through the sergeant who is responsible for making his arrangements. We're supposed to know a little more this (Thursday) afternoon.

We all came here because we wanted to be part of this program. It's about tradition, about the players who have been here.