When I first broke through, there was only NBC, CBS and ABC, and they had news in the morning and in the evening - there wasn't no 24-hour news.

ABC probably did as well or better than we expected. CBS and NBC were about what we expected would happen.

The Best of the CBS Evening News.

The environment doesn't change that radically. You are still going to go home at night and NBC is going to be there, ABC and CBS will still be there.

NBC was at Sunset and Vine. ABC was across the street on Vine. Mutual was also on Vine. CBS' Columbia Square was on Sunset. It was a very busy place.

They didn't win, and I got that from the white press. At four o'clock [on Election Day 2004], that evening, the white press said from the exit polls that [Democratic presidential nominee John] Kerry had won by a landslide and then three hours later something funny happened.